A conversation with Jen Hatmaker about living a life of passion
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I recently had the opportunity to be a guest on the For the Love podcast with Jen Hatmaker. Jen is an author, podcaster, and speaker who focuses on building human connection and we spoke at length about how women can learn to follow their desires, not just fulfill their obligations. If you’re someone who feels like you have to be small in this world, or like you’re living on autopilot, I hope our conversation will ignite something in you.
“Living on fire is a metaphor that I use for this journey of personal transformation. Not the kind of transformation that’s going to make you younger or famous or wealthy, but it’s an internal shift. What it really helps you see more clearly is what’s limiting you, and what’s calling you.”
-Shannon Watts
And be sure to preorder my upcoming book, Fired Up: How to Turn Your Spark Into a Flame and Come Alive at Any Age, to learn more about the formula for living on fire and enroll for free in Firestarter University starting in the Fall.
You can watch our entire discussion on YouTube by clicking below, or download Jen’s podcast For the Love on your favorite podcast player.
My new book Fired Up: How to Turn Your Spark Into a Flame and Come Alive at Any Age, is available for preorder! Out in June 2025, Fired Up will give you the formula for finding your unique spark and show you how to use it to start fires in your life. By preordering, you can enroll for FREE in Firestarter University, a year-long online program that includes live monthly workshops, workbooks and resources, accountability check-ins, and a community to help you succeed.