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Shannon Watts and Gretchen Rubin on the secrets of adulthood

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, author of “Secrets of Adulthood: Simple Truths for Our Complex Lives,” for her inaugural Substack Live! Gretchen and I discuss some of the wisdom from each of our new books, including how to determine whether our life goals are our own or someone else’s, the “fire formula” that can help you figure out what you actually want, why it’s okay to walk away from a relationship, and how writing and journaling can help you find clarity.

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